Pixel or iPhone 7

(Daveyon Mayne) #1

It’s that time of the month; literally! I’m getting rid of the Nexus 6 so I’m shopping for a new phone. iPhone 7 or the #MadeByGoogle aka Pixel.

I like how the iPhone looks, I really do but Pixel looks also great. I’m a fan of Google products so I’m not sure. What would you get?

(Stuart Langridge) #2

They’re both too big, I think. I might have got an iPhone 7 SE if such a thing were created :sunglasses:

(Daniel Hollands) #3

It sounds like you’re trying to choose based simply on what they look like? If this is the case, then that’s entirely subjective and only you can make that decision…

… but it seems to me there are other, more important, factors to take into account. For example:

  • What are you looking to do with it?
  • What was your last phone?
  • Which app store were your current premium apps purchased from?
  • Are you happy to buy your premium apps from another store if you switch?
  • Are the apps you want to use on the other app store if you switch?
  • etc…

For my own part, I’m pretty happy with Android, and have never gotten on with iOS (although I’m open to being converted, if someone can tell me what I’m missing out on) - the only thing I dislike is all the crapware that vendors like Samsung put on their handsets - this is why my last 4 phones were either Nexus or Moto.

What I don’t know is what the difference between a Nexus and a Pixel is. I’ve seen a lot of comments on Reddit along the lines of “RIP Nexus” - but surely Nexus lives on, it’s just called Pixel now? Or have I missed something?

In any case, I’ll be in the market for a new phone in the new year.

(Steve Jalim) #4

(Daveyon Mayne) #5

The apps that I want to use seems to be only for iOS. No issues with Nexus but I love to switch between android and ios when possible.

I also go by look 97% of the time. Apple always looks great in every phone design but, there’s just that but I have with android and that’s the apps I want to use.

The iPhone 7S may just announce next year so I’m a bit confused. I guess that’ just tech for you. On the other hand, Pixel looks nice, so does the iPhone 7. Im still “if” and “but-ing” here.

(Richard Cunningham) #6

He’s refering to the iPhone SE which is smaller than the iPhone 7, which is the same size as the iPhone 5/5s but with many of the specs from the iPhone 6s: http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone-se/

The iPhone 7s would be the same size as the iPhone 7.

I also think iPhone 6/6s/7 are too big, was tempted to get the iPhone se, but my 5s works fine for now. I’ve tried Android a couple times, but never really got on with it and the updates stop pretty quickly (though Google branded devices would be the best for updates).

(Daveyon Mayne) #7

After Blackberry, I’ve been an Apple fanboy for a very long time so I may just re-convert.

Im not too keen on small phones nor a massive one anymore (Nexus 6 or iPhone Pluses). A 5" display would be the max I would have. I do missed my iPhone 5 though. I may just get a SE off ebay.

(Stuart Langridge) #8

Not really. I mean, there are (they are beauty, vitality, and openness, and so you can see that “what they look like” is a part of one of those), but my experience is that everything I dislike about Android is fixed by iOS when I switch, and then after a while I switch back again because everything I dislike about iOS is fixed by Android.

(Daveyon Mayne) #9

We’re in the same boat.

(Daniel Hollands) #10

What are these things that you dislike on each platform?

(Andy Wootton) #11

I’m interested in this list too. I once tried to do something similar for centralisation & decentralisation of corporate IT. The cycle time is just long enough to forget the pain which caused you to move the other way.

Replaceable battery. Some like removable storage options.

If it seems too good to be true then it is?

(Matt Andrews) #12

Not interested in the OnePlus 3? Seems to be a spiritual successor to the Nexus 5 (in price terms) – I’ll be getting one later this year now we know how much the Pixel costs.

(Daniel Hollands) #13

That’s expensive. Ouch!

(Andy Wootton) #14

I nearly came back to mention that. My daughter’s blokey almost got one before being pulled back in by the gravitational field of the big Apple. Sony make a decent smaller phone too and the one I posted says the £150 Moto X 2016 model is back on top of the midrange. I was amused by the people who thought phones needed HD resolution. I waited months for a 32" HD Freeview and I can’t tell the difference if I move 2m away.

(Stuart Langridge) #15

Things I dislike about iPhones

  • arbitrary restrictions on what can and can’t be done, which don’t seem to have any sensible reasons for existence other than “it’s opposed to Apple’s business model” – no other browsers; third-party browsers which embed WebKit can’t add to home screen; no NFC access unless you’re Apple Pay
  • proprietary communications protocol which Apple won’t properly document, meaning that I can’t reliably copy stuff on and off the phone by cable
  • when there are problems, Apple’s response is “use iTunes to back up the whole phone and factory reset it”; if you say “there’s no Ubuntu version” the response is “use iCloud to back up the whole phone and factory reset it”; if you say “man, I really don’t wanna do that, especially since it costs money” the response is “well, you lose then”
  • No SD card for you

Essentially, these all boil down to “you will use this device in the way we, Apple, want you to, and if you try to do something we didn’t anticipate or don’t like, we will put in extra work to make that difficult”. I freely admit that I probably trip over these sorts of edge cases more than most people.

Things I dislike about Android phones

  • There is little or no consistency. There’s no strong design direction. Which means that different apps on the same phone, different phones from the same manufacturer, different phones from different manufacturers work in different ways. Try to write a description of for example “how to put the phone in silent mode” or “how to turn off wifi” without asking what the phone make and model are and you’ll find it very difficult indeed for Android phones, and one sentence for iPhones
  • Massive delays in new OS releases, unless you’ve got a Google-branded phone (Nexus or Pixel)
  • To a first approximation, and this is obviously massively subjective, they’re ugly. Apps are ugly; hardware industrial design is ugly. There are exceptions; on the hardware side, my delightful OnePlus X is delightful, for example. And I like Material Design, but it’s largely not been adopted by third-party app developers; some of this is perhaps because it’s seen less as “the Android standard” and more as “what Google apps use”, but some of it is because Android devs tend to reject the idea of complying with someone else’s design and would rather be inconsistent because then they’re not knuckling under to the Man, since if they wanted that they’d be iPhone developers
  • Worrying level of “you really really need a Google account to use this phone” integration. Which is on the one hand a good thing – consistency! – but it means that you get hassled into bits about it if you don’t. I have a Google account, no problem with that, and use it. But, say, Google Game Centre… I never, ever want that. But there is no way of actually turning it off. I have to say “no, don’t sign into it” on every startup of every game that wants it. I want to tell the OS “when a game asks for Game Centre, pretend I said no thanks, and don’t ever show me the popup again”, and I can’t

Essentially, these mostly boil down to “there are fifty different 'Android’s and little consistency between them”.

Things that annoy me about both

  • No removeable battery for you
  • Battery life is bloody shocking
  • They’re all too bloody big apart from the iPhone SE and one weird Sony phone

So, in general, when I get hacked off enough with Android’s lack of consistency and design, I get an iPhone, which solves that problem for me. Then after a while when I get hacked off enough with Apple’s pointless restrictions on the way I’m allowed to use my device, I get an Android phone, which solves that problem for me. Repeat until false.

(Stuart Langridge) #16

Phone resolution is really about sharpness; TV resolution is really about screen bigness. Phones with high DPI displays look a lot, lot crisper, which means that text is easier to read, icons don’t look blocky, that sort of thing, which I like. It’s a quality increase.

(Daveyon Mayne) #17

Apple do leads the way with security. That’s another big deal for me although I have nothing to hide. Props to the iCloud feature where if my device was lost and found and someone tries to reinstall, they would need my details before gaining access to the device. For android, a no barrier.

A 5" display is ok for me.

(Andy Wootton) #18

It’s like Hi Fi. It’s only worse if you compare it with something better. If it was fine when you bought it, it still is, unless something has changed.

(Marc Cooper) #19

I’m an Apple victim these days. The integration of MacOS and iOS via iCloud is so good. I currently have an Android phone (Nexus 4?), although I have all the Google apps disabled. I don’t trust Google and, so far, I do trust Apple. I hardly ever use my phone, so it’s hard to justify an update. If I did (or when the battery stops taking charge), I’d go with an SE.

re: Pixel or iPhone 7? No-brainer, imo (@sil’s comments are pretty much spot on)

(Daniel Hollands) #20

What’s better about this over Dropbox?